Posts by Hanged Man

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The soteriology of Revelation

by Doug Mason in

my draft chapters on the book of revelation is available at:.

http://www.jwstudies.com/the_book_of_revelation_s_nature_and_its_soteriology.pdf.

i am seriously seeking corrections, criticisms, and advice.. thanks,.

Hanged Man

All of the symbolism can be explained astrologically CAL....it's all the zodiac.

It's the cycle of one of the ages of the "great year" coming to its end....and the birth of the new cycle/age. (we even have new age movements today)

There are 3 cycles...1/the daily cycle (which is like a small year.)

2/the yearly cycle containing the 12 months/four seasons.

And 3/ the great year caused by axial precession.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precession#Axial_precession_(precession_of_the_equinoxes)

It's the third cycle that is coming to the end of one of its aeons/age/system of things that is being explained....the end of Pisces the two fish......It has to make way for the age of Aquarius the water bearer.....follow him into his house (houses are used in astrology).

Luke 22:10

It's called "precession" because unlike the daily and yearly cycles......the third cycle does not proceed like those ones......it moves backwards through the zodiac.

Taurus,Aries,Pisces and Aquarius.....rather than the usual cycle we are used to....Aquarius,Pisces,Aries and Taurus.

The bible tells us about the end of the age of Taurus in the story of Moses.

While he is up the mountain getting the new laws for the new age.....the people are clinging on to the old age of Taurus (those bitter clingers)....they were down and partying with the golden calf.....(the golden calf is the age of Taurus).....however Moses tells them....it is over.....the new age of Aries the ram/lamb/sheep has arrived....so blow the shofar horn and welcome the age of Aries....now all astrologers know that Aries is ruled by Mars (the god of war).....so its off to constant war Israelites....obey your God Mars......and also they are now concerned with Shepherd kings/soldiers....i.e David......because Aries is the ram/sheep/lamb after all.

Notice also....at the end of every age....there is a culling of those who cling to the old ways....so the Taurean worshippers are now killed off....they had their chance to change....but no!

After Aries (going backwards through the zodiac).....we next come to the sign of Pisces.....the two fish......and lo and behold...(what a coincidence guv'nor) we have Jesus connected to fishing and fish.....he even feeds people with two fish.......of course he does....he is the Piscean Messiah.

Look at pics of old places of worship....and again...you just happen to have two fish there.

All because ....in the big clock of precession.....it is connected to the sign of Pisces.

And for those who have ever asked the question.....why is the god of the old testament a warlord and the new testament god a beneficent/kindly god?

Here is the answer.....Aries is ruled by mars....(warlord).

Pisces is ruled by Jupiter....the Jovial god....and Jovial comes from Jupiter(Jew Peter)/Jove/Thor/Jehovah/Zeus (Je- Zeus).

https://wordsmith.org/words/jovial.html

However.....the next age after Pisces (again going backwards) is Aquarius....the water bearer.......so we should expect water symbolism in revelation....and sure enough it is being poured out,as waters of life,coming from the urn of Aquarius.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjxSCAalsBE

Christians today still have the fish of Pisces on the back of their cars......however in the centuries to come.....people will have a little water urn of Aquarius on the back of their hover cars : )

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Common Figure of Speech/Colloquialism?

by rstrats in

1. the messiah said that three nights would be involved with his time in the "heart of the earth".. 2. there are some who believe that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with the resurrection taking place on the 1st day of the week.. 3. of those, there are some who believe that the "heart of the earth" is referring to the tomb.. 4. however, those two beliefs allow for only 2 nights to be involved.. 5. to account for the discrepancy, some of the above say that the messiah was using common figure of speech/colloquial language of the time, i.e., that it is was common to forecast or say that a day or a night would be involved with an event when no part of the day or no part of the night could occur.. 6. in order for someone to legitimately say that it was common, they would have to know of more that 1 example to make that assertion.. 6. for the purpose of this topic, i would like to ask if there are any 6th day of the week crucifixion advocates who think the messiah was employing common figure of speech/colloquial language of the period?.

Hanged Man

All you need to understand.....is the cycle.

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Common Figure of Speech/Colloquialism?

by rstrats in

1. the messiah said that three nights would be involved with his time in the "heart of the earth".. 2. there are some who believe that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with the resurrection taking place on the 1st day of the week.. 3. of those, there are some who believe that the "heart of the earth" is referring to the tomb.. 4. however, those two beliefs allow for only 2 nights to be involved.. 5. to account for the discrepancy, some of the above say that the messiah was using common figure of speech/colloquial language of the time, i.e., that it is was common to forecast or say that a day or a night would be involved with an event when no part of the day or no part of the night could occur.. 6. in order for someone to legitimately say that it was common, they would have to know of more that 1 example to make that assertion.. 6. for the purpose of this topic, i would like to ask if there are any 6th day of the week crucifixion advocates who think the messiah was employing common figure of speech/colloquial language of the period?.

Hanged Man

Jesus is in the heart of the earth for 3 days due to the fact that the old sun (Jesus) dies at the winter solstice after being crucified on the cross of the year...and around 3 days later... the new sun starts its cycle in Capricorn......which is the Cardinal "earth" sign.

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What if the crucifixion never took place..

by Jayk in

i googled it and pretty much my understanding is the same as what i imagine.

no one really knows, your guess is as good as the next.

interesting thought to consider imo..

Hanged Man

Today is the day the crucifixion takes place.....the winter solstice.....the old sun has passed all four "stations" and is now dead at the darkest time of the year......However.....something wonderful is about to happen!....the new baby sun (Jesus) is about to be born as he starts his journey round the four cardinal points.....of course it would be the magi (astrologers) who came to visit the newborn light.....they were the sky watchers.....they were the ones who understood the mazzaroth......the constellations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_symbol

Is it a coincidence that the ancient symbol for earth is the cross?.......no......the ancients knew about the four seasons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_symbol

Although he will be present (parousia) at this time....he is too weak to kill off his foes of darkness/cold and death...he is born at the start of winter....the dark forces still have the upper hand.....he will have to go into exile for forty days from candlemass until he gains his strength to overcome them at the spring equinox....then satan will have to scarper until he has his day at the autumnal equinox....where the sun will be judged at the scales of justice (sign of libra.....you can still see the scales of libra at courthouses).....however the spring equinox is not the time for judgment......the spring equinox (happens in the sign of Aries) is the time for the lamb of Aries to take the sins/darkness/death of the world away....as he passes over the equator.

In the daily cycle........when the sun passes over the horizon.....all of the stars disappear or are "killed".......he kills his thousands every dawn.

When the sun passes down over the horizon at sunset (daily cycle of libra) he heads off into the underworld to be reborn at midnight...the winter solstice of the daily cycle.

Hannukah is the Jewish culture celebrating the run up to the winter solstice.......none of it is Satanic....it is merely celebrating the cycle of our glorious saviour and light bringer....the one who brings the dead to life......the sun.

The Romans called this time of year "Saturnalia".....why?

Because the winter solstice occurs in the sign of Capricorn......and all astrologers know......the sign of Capricorn is ruled by.....guess who?.......Saturn!....hence Saturnalia

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Saturn_(Astrology)

Saturn is the grim reaper (hence his connection to agriculture)......you will always see him with his scythe or sickle........he puts it in and reaps during winter as he kills off the weak....this is the symbology of Jesus in revelation....reaping the winter of the cycle of the age.

Notice old father time (Saturn) with his sickle.....pointing to midnight....because he rules the sign of Capricorn....which is the midnight of the year......now you should also be grasping why Satan is portrayed as a goat.....due to the sign of Capricorn....Saturn is Satan......the ruler of the darkness.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yule_Goat

Saturn is also Herrut (Herod) in Egyptian lore....the one who chases Jesus,Mary and Joseph into exile in Egypt.

http://www.egyptiangods.co.uk/herrut.htm

Notice in the link above,Herrut chases the mother Meh (Mary),Horus (Christ) and Seb...(Joseph).

They are all telling stories about the cycle of the year....and the light and the darkness.

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Greetings everyone! Newly signed up but not new to the site.

by GTSfromSY in

my (very fake) name is gabriel syme or gabe for short.

i have been lurking in the shadows for many years and i want to give all here a heartfelt thank you for all your indirect support.

this website, as well as youtube, and eventually reddit, were all key in me finally accepting the “truth” being not that at all.

Hanged Man

Welcome Mr Jupiter!

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Greetings everyone! Newly signed up but not new to the site.

by GTSfromSY in

my (very fake) name is gabriel syme or gabe for short.

i have been lurking in the shadows for many years and i want to give all here a heartfelt thank you for all your indirect support.

this website, as well as youtube, and eventually reddit, were all key in me finally accepting the “truth” being not that at all.

Hanged Man

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Was_Thursday

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Things You Still Agree With The JWs On

by Fred Franztone in

aside from obvious things that most people agree on, like theft being wrong and the importance of family, i can't think of a single thing i agree with the jws on, nothing that's specific to their religion anyway.

do you have any?.

Hanged Man

Literally...as a real guy walking on water,feeding people with two fish etc.....no......as a literary character telling us truths about ourselves....yes.

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Things You Still Agree With The JWs On

by Fred Franztone in

aside from obvious things that most people agree on, like theft being wrong and the importance of family, i can't think of a single thing i agree with the jws on, nothing that's specific to their religion anyway.

do you have any?.

Hanged Man

If "king saul" was real.....maybe.

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Things You Still Agree With The JWs On

by Fred Franztone in

aside from obvious things that most people agree on, like theft being wrong and the importance of family, i can't think of a single thing i agree with the jws on, nothing that's specific to their religion anyway.

do you have any?.

Hanged Man

I just looked through it......do you REALLY think they in any way have god's support? (if there was one)

Answer.....no.....they are a bunch of charlatans who are getting their arse handed to them from every direction......if they really had the truth they wouldn't be hiding in their ivory tower....they would be engaging.....showing us satanic bastards up with their "truth".

The fact the witnesses scarper when asked the simplest of questions.....should tell all of us....their faith is defunct....they just haven't had the memo yet.

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Things You Still Agree With The JWs On

by Fred Franztone in

aside from obvious things that most people agree on, like theft being wrong and the importance of family, i can't think of a single thing i agree with the jws on, nothing that's specific to their religion anyway.

do you have any?.

Hanged Man

They are defenders of their own interpretation of what gods name (the tetragrammaton) is... that is all.....and that biblical tyrant doesn't need anyone to defend his name.....he is big and ugly enough to do his own slaughtering thank you very much : )